From: Subject: Moo's video editing tips Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 16:04:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3220E.32EC7670"; type="text/html" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3220E.32EC7670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Location: http://www.student.oulu.fi/~miohtama/dv-editing-tips.html Moo's video editing tips

Moo's video editing tips

Updated 25.11.2002

I have some experience on editing and encoding DV video and I decided = to=20 publish a list of my tricks/problems. Here is a lot of general = information and=20 some of this information has been really under a rock. I hope sharing = the=20 knowledge of my efforts help DV editing newbies and maybe some more = advanced=20 persons too.

Tips aren't in any specific order, they are quickly written and very=20 technicial. I guaranteed this page to be as chaotic as possible ;-)

I have been using Adobe Premiere 6.0, Ulead Media Studio 6.0 and = several=20 freeware applications.

If you have any money worth = projects don't=20 hesitate to contact me in recruiting purposes. I am a Finnish guy = who is=20 studying industrial engineering and management in a university. I = am=20 experienced C/C++ and Java programmer with few years work = experience and I=20 have pretty good knowledge about video and audio processing as = hobby=20 basis. I am interested in both the coding and video editing. Poor = students=20 are always in need for some boozing cash=20 ;-)

Please feel free to contribute and comment this = list.=20 Everything here might not correct, since I wrote the list from my memory = without=20 doing too many checks. Send mail to moo@gdnmail.net

Table of contents

  1. History=20
  2. How=20 I do things=20
  3. How=20 much hard disk space and CPU time video editing requires?=20
  4. Adobe=20 Premiere specific issues=20
  5. Ulead=20 Media Studio Pro specific issues=20
  6. VirtualDub=20 specific issues=20
  7. DV=20 format explained=20
  8. Video,=20 audio & media formats=20
  9. Video=20 compression=20
  10. DV=20 codecs=20
  11. Audio=20 compression=20
  12. Players=20
  13. Hardware=20 issues=20
  14. Other=20 issues=20
  15. Sites=20 for more information

History

[25.11.2002] Fixed title (was: edititing). Renamed = page=20 from DV editing to video editing. Added a correct DV format = explanation and=20 finally fixed those bitrates. Added time and space consumption=20 example.

[23.11.2002] Added OGM, XViD, VP3 and Theora. = Added some=20 commercials about myself . Added separated DV codec section. Added = link list.=20 Fixed broken links. Small fixes and new descriptions. Added players. = Removed=20 inter-software issues.

[27.8.2002] Fixed DV datarate, fixed FAT32 file = limit,=20 added table of content, added info about real-time editing, added = Media Studio=20 Pro titles information

How I do things

How=20 much hard disk space and CPU time video editing requires?

--- <pnguyen2@xxxxx.xxx>=20 wrote:
>i've enjoyed reading your website.. i just have a couple = of=20 questions
>because i'm a newbie. how much storage space would = you need=20 if you
>were to edit a 2 hour DV tape and would want to record = it to a=20 dvd.
>when i use media studio pro 6 it ripps the dv to an .avi = format.=20 how
>can i convert that to the dvd format so i can record to a = dvd=20 using DVD

DV has bitrate of 3,5 MBytes/sec. Therefore the = input feed=20 requires

2 hours * 3600 secs/hour * 3,5 MBytes/sec =3D ~ 25=20 Gigabytes

You need to also store the final MPEG-2 file on your = hard=20 disk before you burn a DVD. DVD has usually 4,5 Mbit/sec bit rate for = video=20 and 0,4 Mbit/sec for audio

4,5 MBit/sec + 0,5 MBit =3D 5 = MBit/sec =3D=20 0,625 MBytes/sec

2*3600*0,625 =3D 4,5 Gigabytes.

So you = need about=20 30 gigabytes of hard disk space for editing 2 hours DV video and = making a DVD=20 from it.

>workshop. I tried converting it to DVD format but = it takes=20 aabout 10
>hours for 45 min. is that normal?? i'm newbie and i = need=20 help if you
>have time.

Yes. Lossy video encoding = (packing)=20 requires very complex calculations which leads into high CPU usage and = there=20 is dozens of gigabytes of a material to process.

Encoding = (MPEG-2 or=20 MPEG-4) long movies usually takes 4-10 hours. I usually do editing = during=20 daytime and leave my computer turned on for encoding video for a = night. Some=20 codecs might be optimized better than others and they might perform = tasks=20 faster. Sorry, but I do not have any encoding time comparison = information=20 anywhere.

You can have never enough CPU power for video=20 processing.

 

Adobe Premiere specific=20 issues

Ulead Media = Studio Pro=20 specific issues

VirtualDub specific = issues

DV format = explained

Video, audio & = media=20 formats

These usually pop-up during DV and computer aided video=20 processing.

Video compression

DV codecs

In Windows world there exists two software interfaces for video=20 manipulation: Video for Windows (older) and = DirectShow=20 (newer). New Windowses ship with DV codec for DirectShow. Software = which uses=20 Video for Windows interface (VirtualDub) cannot use DirectShow codec = and=20 Microsoft doesn't provide Video for Windows DV codec with OS. =

Audio compression

Players

Hardware issues

Other issues

Sites for more = information

=
http://www.fourcc.org/ This site contains list of all Four Character = Code=20 identifiers and their codecs. FourCCs are 4 character long names = which are=20 used to identify codec for contents in AVI files. If your player = cannot=20 play AVI file, you are probably missing a correct code. With AVI = files=20 utils or hex editor you can open the AVI file and check FourCC = used in it.=20 After you know FourCC you can start hunting a codec for it and = this site=20 server as a good start point.
http://www.doom9.org/ A DivX processing and DVD ripping related site. = This site=20 has a lot of FAQs, tutorials and in-depth knowledge about video = and audio=20 encoding. The has also regularly updated news section which is = worth of=20 following if you are interested in audio and video processing=20 software.
http://www.divx-digest.com/A site with a lot of DivX tutorials, but the real = value=20 of this site is a huge up-to-date list of DivX and video editing = related=20 software. Most of listed applications have good and descriptive=20 reviews.
http://www.dvformat.com/ A site for more professional DV makers. = Specialized in DV=20 itself. There are good tips = here.

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